jools  and  pondgirl if you  have  chosen not to watch uk tv then thats up to you .but for people that want to watch it thats up to them too.all we are trying to do is come up with a way of watching the uk tv programs we like to watch without it costing so much money our 1.2m dish cost us 90e to buy a few years ago but now as we need a BIGGER dish the prices seem to have gone mad around 700e for a 1.8m dish and 1500e for a 2.2m dish maybe if we all wait a few months the prices will come down  ::) ::) ::)