Thanks again, I am with Eurona & get just under the 3, It has been slow & they do say they will come & do something one day.  I don't suppose Ebre will be out here in Riumar but I will check.  Filmon works fine at present except this turquoise/pink Sony tv picture that just happens after watching a bit & I see on Google this does happen & it is the HD cable, mine only lasted a year, is there a better one? I bet mine is Chinese!  Pat