hi mark , yeah I take your point , I was vaguely tempted out of laziness , I've been web searching for a while now and the amount of properties is pretty bewildering, I've been in France recently viewing houses and not a single agent I was booked with bothered to tell me that at least one but sometimes all houses I was looking at had actually been sold and would we care to look at others [ over budget of course]....sort of praying that sort of stuff doesn't go on in spain , coming over for another look in January..regards