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Message started by kennymack on Nov 9th, 2007 at 10:43pm

Title: license.
Post by kennymack on Nov 9th, 2007 at 10:43pm
Can anyone advise please on how to get a license,where from ,and what do i need,both my son-in-law and myself require one in the near future
Many thanks

Kenny.

Title: Re: license.
Post by Nigel on Nov 11th, 2007 at 5:44pm
Take your passport(s) to the office to the left of Caja Madrid (Plaza Alfonso) and ask there.  It's on the first or second floor.
They will issue you with a licence.

Nigel

Title: Re: license.
Post by kennymack on Nov 11th, 2007 at 7:53pm
thanks Nigel,am grateful
Kenny

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 12th, 2007 at 3:23pm
Nigel,

Does the same office provide Gun licences?

I've been invited on a wild boar hunt and might want to borrow a gun for the odd shot or two, as the rifleman has first dibs on the carcass.

PB

Title: Re: license.
Post by Nigel on Nov 12th, 2007 at 5:34pm
Not that I'm aware - I was told that to get a gun licence here you need to take a psycological evaluation test (in Catalan of course). Best place to ask is probably one of the hunting shops - I'm sure they will tell you what you need.

Nigel

Title: Re: license.
Post by munkonminor on Nov 12th, 2007 at 7:44pm
Presumably the psychological test is to prove you are stupid enough to shoot anything that moves, leave piles of spent cartridges for others to clean up and don't give a toss who's quiet enjoyment you ruin ?

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 12th, 2007 at 8:47pm

munkonminor wrote on Nov 12th, 2007 at 7:44pm:
Presumably the psychological test is to prove you are stupid enough to shoot anything that moves, leave piles of spent cartridges for others to clean up and don't give a toss who's quiet enjoyment you ruin ?


and your point is ???

PB

Title: Re: license.
Post by munkonminor on Nov 12th, 2007 at 11:17pm
Simply that all the "hunters" who regularly trapse through our finca shoot at anything and in any direction. On several occasions we have been showered in shot because they are either to stupid or have total disregard for anyone else. As we border the Natural Park they prefer to stand on our finca and kindly leave us their spent shells, last year two men were there with high velocity rifles. Good sport shooting finches !

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 13th, 2007 at 8:27am
Of course I will enjoy any "hunt" I participate in. I am delighted that the villagers are prepared to invite me on such activites. Should I bag a "finch" I will post a photo of its furry tusked head.

PB

PS You should learn to distinguish between the concepts of "hunting" and "indiscriminate shooting", the terms "wild boar" and "birds"

Title: Re: license.
Post by roswell on Nov 13th, 2007 at 2:31pm
You need to be very careful with those furry tusked Finches, they are ever so dangerous when cornered.....  ;)


I asked about gun licences a while ago, IIRC there is more than the psychological tests..... I think I decided it would be easier to get an English one [hard enough anyway....] and just use it here on a visitors temporary licence.

Title: Re: license.
Post by munkonminor on Nov 13th, 2007 at 11:24pm
" You should learn to distinguish between the concepts of "hunting" and "indiscriminate shooting" "

Same thing as far as I am concerned, little brain - big gun.

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 14th, 2007 at 7:46am
Munkonminor,

Ahh, I realise my mistake.

I thought you had a brain large enough to understand the diffence in the concepts.

Apologies

PB

Title: Re: license.
Post by roswell on Nov 14th, 2007 at 12:05pm

munkonminor wrote on Nov 13th, 2007 at 11:24pm:
" You should learn to distinguish between the concepts of "hunting" and "indiscriminate shooting" "

Same thing as far as I am concerned, little brain - big gun.


Are you American Munko ? You seem to be having trouble spotting the ironic contradiction in your statement.

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 14th, 2007 at 6:55pm
This little piggy went yum yum yum into my tum.



Now where are his brothers?  ;) PB

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondgirl on Nov 14th, 2007 at 10:01pm
PB,

You are being a very naughty boy and I'm going to have to spank you.

PG

Title: Re: license.
Post by cactus jack on Nov 15th, 2007 at 1:20pm
now its getting interesting!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

Title: Re: Gun license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 15th, 2007 at 8:35pm
Off to see the Guardia Civil soon to get their form on the procedures on obtaining a gun licence.

Basically PG & I will need to :-

Join a society of Casadores

Prove we do not have a criminal record

Pass a gun handling test

Pass a written psychological test that is written in Spanish (not Catalan)

Purchase a gun safe and a safe for the cartridges.


If there are any other requirements, the form from the Guardia will list them.

Will update our progress, as and when.
PB

(PG will soon be a tree hugging, liberal, open minded, gun toting gal)

Title: Re: license.
Post by snowhite on Nov 16th, 2007 at 11:02am

munkonminor wrote on Nov 12th, 2007 at 11:17pm:
Simply that all the "hunters" who regularly trapse through our finca shoot at anything and in any direction. On several occasions we have been showered in shot because they are either to stupid or have total disregard for anyone else. As we border the Natural Park they prefer to stand on our finca and kindly leave us their spent shells, last year two men were there with high velocity rifles. Good sport shooting finches !


Several points:

1. Hunters are allowed to hunt on your land unless it is completely fenced.
2. They are not allowed to discharge their weapons within 50m of an isolated building (ie your finca) or 100m of a village. The law doesn't mention anything about standing outside that zone and firing at a building but I suspect that deliberately, as opposed to accidentally, firing at a house would land a hunter in a lot of trouble.
3. Hunters must not litter, including spent shells, your land.

One thing is the law and quite another is getting it enforced without going bankrupt or insane. We´ve found that walking up to hunters on our land and asking them politely if they wouldn´t mind hunting elsewhere has paid off. We've had a few grumpy twits going on about their rights and all that but if you can maintain your cool and persevere with the polite "do me a favour" act it seems to work. Most just said it wasn´t a problem and over a period of three years we've gone from a war-zone to a relative quietness.

Above all else, if you do approach hunters remember that it is their right under Spanish law to blast to smithereens anything that moves outside Natural Parks or private hunting grounds (coto de caza). There is no point getting upset about it or talking about trespass, they have the law on their side. The only alternative is to fence the entire perimeter of your land.

Snowhite




Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 16th, 2007 at 3:29pm
Snowhite,

Well put.

We had a visitation from the "Guarda de Caza y Campo" from Roquettes yesterday after they received notice of our request to make our land "caca privado". As the expense would be prohibitive, they said basically the same things that you have put so well (en Catala)

They also said that if any hunters did not comply with our wishes, to call them and they would tell the hunters to desist.

We are now both going to join the local Society de Casadors and apply for gun licences, as if you cannot stop them, it is better to be their friends and be on a good footing to ask them to ask them to stop. (And we also would like the odd rabbit or wild boar for the pot)

If you are having serious problems, contact your local hunting society and talk things through with them.

If you want to apply for a gun licence, go to this link and download the relevant documents (Tema IV details the requirements and process for applying for a gun licence)

http://www.guardiacivil.org/quesomos/organizacion/operaciones/icae/temarios.jsp

Have fun

PB

Title: Re: license.
Post by Pondboy on Nov 21st, 2007 at 8:57am
Just found two new "Coto Privada de Caca" (Private Hunting) signs posted on the edge of our property by the Barranc. There is also the sign about hunting dogs, but I can't spell that one this early in the morning.

I don't know the rules on this one, but visit your area's Medi Ambiente office's armed with all your papers and a Catalan/Spanish speaker. Give them your details and you could get a result.

Happy to be of service.

PB

PS Pondgirl is now pretending she is Annie Oakley


Grrr 8-)

Title: Re: license.
Post by jackflorrie1 on Apr 7th, 2008 at 6:58pm
just in case anyone is intrested got my fishing licence today they have gone up in price to 21 euros for 1 year or 50 euro for 4 years

Title: Re: license.
Post by Ebrovoice on Aug 27th, 2008 at 11:16am

wrote on Apr 7th, 2008 at 6:58pm:
just in case anyone is intrested got my fishing licence today they have gone up in price to 21 euros for 1 year or 50 euro for 4 years



Ouch!  Has anyone else heard of the Catalonian type fishing licence that covers you for yourself and one other unnamed guest? If so what does it cost, please?

Title: Re: license.
Post by Ebrovoice on Aug 27th, 2008 at 11:23am

wrote on Nov 21st, 2007 at 8:57am:
Just found two new "Coto Privada de Caca" (Private Hunting) signs posted on the edge of our property by the Barranc. There is also the sign about hunting dogs, but I can't spell that one this early in the morning.

I don't know the rules on this one, but visit your area's Medi Ambiente office's armed with all your papers and a Catalan/Spanish speaker. Give them your details and you could get a result.

Happy to be of service.

PB

PS Pondgirl is now pretending she is Annie Oakley


Grrr 8-)


I wonder if you have heard around your "pondlife" when the actual hunting season should start and finish? Beause we woke the other Sunday to gunshot, and no it wasn't fireworks, as we could hear the dogs. In my opinion it is not until late in October or am I wrong?

Title: Re: license.
Post by hazelnut on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 11:13pm
Hi went there today to the Generelitat d Agricol at Placa Alfonso down Carrer Agentina, in Tortosa on the square with the underground car park, its the building with the big statues on either side of the door entrance I think they are supposed to be neptune anyway as Nigel says its on the second floor to the right  of the stairwell, but boy was it tedious, it took nearly 3/4 of an hour for the lady to type in what was very simple information, one would think I was asking for a bomb license instead of a fishing License for a jubilat anyway finally got one at €0.00 for a minor and € 15.86 for an adult, you can actually do it on line, so if you don't want to hang about for 3/4 of an hour I would recommend it  ::)

Title: Re: license.
Post by hazelnut on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 11:18pm

wrote on Nov 21st, 2007 at 8:57am:
Just found two new "Coto Privada de Caca" (Private Hunting) signs posted on the edge of our property by the Barranc. There is also the sign about hunting dogs, but I can't spell that one this early in the morning.

So that sign for the hunting dogs!! have you seen any dogs stopping! reading the sign!! then beggaring off!! They must be damn intelligent dogs if you ask me

I don't know the rules on this one, but visit your area's Medi Ambiente office's armed with all your papers and a Catalan/Spanish speaker. Give them your details and you could get a result.

Happy to be of service.

PB

PS Pondgirl is now pretending she is Annie Oakley


Grrr 8-)


Title: Re: license.
Post by old nelson on Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:43am
Regarding fishing licence............... over a certain age, I think it's sixty, retired people get one for zilch and it lasts for four years......... I have one in my possession!!!

                 OLD Nelson.

Title: Re: license.
Post by hazelnut on Feb 4th, 2009 at 11:14am
Really I didn't think you were that Old!!  Old Nelson should have given me a clue I suppose

Title: Re: license.
Post by hazelnut on Feb 4th, 2009 at 12:06pm


wrote on Aug 27th, 2008 at 11:16am:

wrote on Apr 7th, 2008 at 6:58pm:
just in case anyone is intrested got my fishing licence today they have gone up in price to 21 euros for 1 year or 50 euro for 4 years



Ouch!  Has anyone else heard of the Catalonian type fishing licence that covers you for yourself and one other unnamed guest? If so what does it cost, please?


Ahh it sounds like jack went to the fishing tackle shop for his license the guy puts his commission on of around €6, the true cost of the license if you go and buy one yourself from the Generalitat d Agricol is €15.86, but no english spoken, but hey we got by, If you friends are over 60 I think they get the license for free as Old Nelson Confirms!!

Title: Shooting license.
Post by fatphil on Feb 4th, 2009 at 3:52pm
Pondboy/ Pondgirl,

Have you made any progress regarding obtaining shooting licence ?
As I understand things can be a bit long winded in Spain, but you did start the process over two years ago !
I assume the requirement to be fluent in Catalan was also a joke ?

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