NTG, cheers for that but Im OK on the citrus tree front we are not a million miles away from a very large company called Viveros Alcanar there on the road from Ulldecona to Vinaros KM 7 a massive company which does all the citrus trees, not cherry just citrus, most of the farmers use them, a tree about 4ft in a cloth root bag are 5 euros or a potted one slightly bigger in a 10inch pot are 10 euros each, there online at [deleted re forum rules]. Not veg I know but worth the visit if your buying a few for a new orchard!

PS the woman with the purple hair.........thats about 20% of all the Spainish Ladies  ;D what is the new colour for 2008 ? 8-)