Saw my first fly today hope this isn't an early start to the fly season!! the swallows aren't due back till March at the soonest, still the bees are busy I hope they are pollenating our almond blossom!!

Hi Hazelnut,
               Having "enjoyed" several fly infested meals at my parents casita near Camarles and not agreed with a friend/builders theory that "they were here before we were", I asked the advice of the friend of mine who did some work on our own casa in the Coll De l'alba and he suggested building a "fly free zone" which is basically a wooden frame maybe 4mtrs sq one side of which covers the front door to ensure a relatively fly free casa aswell.This we covered in fly-screen and built a door in and it leaves us to eat,read etc in luxury with only occasional disturbances.If anyone would like the contact details please get in touch.They are very cheap, an "extension" 3mtrs sq to mine to house the kiddies pool and keep it wasp-free is 175e for the frame to be built and I'll net it myself in a morning for about another 20e.It also stops she who is to be obeyed,feared and whose every need is to be pandered to post haste and without delay harping on about a conservatory at home!!!!!
                                                                                Bzzzzzzz,
                                                                                             briand

We have spent many a summer 'holed'up in the casa waiting for the flies to go away but last year after having the porch put on we tried some net curtains that I got from Ikea.  We put them on poles so they are easily removed.  The curtains are called LILL, they are 300cm long and 280 cm wide and there is a pair in each packet which cost £2.93 (not sure of euro price).  When we put them up we would have been happy if it had stopped about 50% of the flies but it stopped almost all of them and for the very few that do get in they seem to spend all their time trying to get out that they leave you alone.  We did have some gaps in the curtains but as they moved in the breeze it seems to deter the pests!!  If someone could tell me how to post a photo as well I will put one up showing what they looked like!
Debbie

Great idea,we spent a small fortune on fly free mesh last year only to see it blow down 3 times.
At least a decent looking curtain can be taken down and cleaned.
Are the bottoms anchored down somehow or do the just flap around in the breeze..??

Oh !!!! and the bast&rd black flies are out.....

We're just ol' cheap skates and used rocks from the garden, gave it that rustic look LOL!
Ask Mrs Baker she saw our efforts last year even managed a few glasses of cava while sitting in the fly free zone!
Debbie

Where aere they this year is it us or are they not coming? we havent gotany yet HaHHa

Are we living in cookoo land/

They will be back soon, Just smell the air! The locals are at present coating their land with all sorts of SH*T.Makes our area a sort of Fly Heaven!   :'(

Debbie you are right the IKEA curtains look great...nicer looking out through fine white rather than the grey available from hardware stores here. Maybe because of your generous glasses of Cava I did not notice the flies or as you say they just were not there. I really need a rerun to make certain :)

Ebro rob I watched a documentary on the common house fly and according to the researcher flys only like new s...t so after a few days it no longer attracts them!!They just lay eggs in it to increase the fly population..Deep Joy!!

FIRA THIS WEEKEND GODALL Saturday and Sunday 14th & 15th.

Well our resident pair of swallows are back to reclaim their nesting site and she is sat on the nest it can only mean one thing, they are expecting food in the form of flies, ahh well it seemed to last longer this year, or is that just wishfull thinking

G.O.M.

Saw our first Bee eater the other day.A good sign I suppose,unless of course,you are bee.

Hey Nobrot

Do London Tower Beefeaters eat only beef? could answer why they live so long!

Do Hoopoes eat only Hoops

Do Magpies eat only pies baked by Mags

Do Swallows oh dear don't go there

G.O.M.

Great News to all of you struggling with Flies - I have the answer!!!   :D  ;D

It comes in a spray which you spray around the outside of your house to create a FLY FREE ZONE without the mossie netting and structures. It is highly effective and lasts up to 3 months if there is no heavy rain.

Yeah

We bought some of that spray its about as useless as a chocolate fireguard ;D

We also tried some crystals from a car boot sale also useless!! :-/

We tried the fly traps sold in Sol D Ebre Agricol, they attracted million of flies and made things worse >:(

If there was solution that worked effectively, the makers would be millionaires Rodney

Netting off is the only solution or getting your neighbours to stop spraying pig and chicken slurry on their land, which incidently is illegal, if they spray manure it has to be turned into the soil immediately which non of them do of course!! ::)

wrote on May 13^th, 2009 at 8:02am:

Yeah We bought some of that spray its about as useless as a chocolate fireguard ;D We also tried some crystals from a car boot sale also useless!! :-/

Something else that we agree on Stuart

The stuff is absolutely useless

I agree Tony

I don't like people being conned by dodgy claims about marvelous products!! They are probably claimed to be Ecological as well!! ::)

They simply don't work!!

Don't waste your money, by fly screen mesh or Ikea net curtains

I'm glad you said that cos i was gonna buy some but thought i would wait to hear peoples opinions first, i did buy some after bite and that did work so i can reccomend that.
and i brought some some from the uk called Vape outdoor spray and that actually seems to work, but then again there aint that many of the blighters just yet so i reserve judgement for the time being ;)!

What does seem to work is a new spray Hazel found at SoldEbre Agricol, it doesn't keep flies of your Casita but it does seem to do what it says and keep the Mosca Negre from Biting you, its in a small 125cc Spray Bottle Named Repellant contra la "MOSCA NEGRA"

Worth a try!!

Sorry you guys have had bad experiences, I just know I don't have to spend my summer behind mossie netting or with a fly swatter in hand - I can enjoy my meals overlooking the valley without flies pestering me!!!
:)  8-)
If you are interested in finding out some more feel free to ask - no crystals, no Autan or lotions    ;)

Obviously with a name like No Flies On Us, and not telling what the "cure" is, you are selling something. If so, bloody well say so, but why not advertise properly, through Nigel who runs this forum, and if your secret is any good you will do good business. It hacks me right off i'll tell you when this sort of post comes on, it's like someone saying there is a car boot sale on , or a must-see event, but not giving any clue as to where it is being held. >:(

Yep Chris

I can only agree which is why i always try to find out at much as possible about any event, including accurate directions much to the amusement of Notrob and Cactus Jack, and also times of start and closure especially with the Catalan 3 hour lunch break!! ;D ;D

And re the Fly off spray we have tried them all, if there was a good one everyone including the locals would know about it, yes sounds like a sales pitch to me also!!

Yes I do sell a fly spray which works!! I advertise in the Olive Press under Sin Bichos and just noticed people struggling with flies on the forum so thought I'd tell them about it - but you guys just like a good old moan, you're not really into finding something that works.

If you are interested contact me on sin_moscas@yahoo.com and I will give you all the info you need.

Ahh Yes but do you pay nigel for this advertising on the tortosa forum?

If Not Pay up and be Honest if you are running a business and are paying The Olive Press!!

Why Pay for this psuedo advertising on Nigels Site?

G.O.M. Pay up or Shut Up!!

I have enquired about advertising from Nigel - but with sharp tongued people like you on the forum I think I might give it a miss - plenty of business out there!!

Don't base your advertising doubts on my input to the Forum, you would then be tarring everyone with the same brush!! :-/ and everyone has different opinions ::) some not as sharp tongued as mine!! ;)

Mine as the G.O.M. are predictable

But check all your own posts! are any of them not trying to sell something?

Ok one is a private sale but all the rest are to do with your fly free business!!

Everyone appreciates free advice and help but not when you are promoting your own business, see rules of the forum

When I first joined the Forum I tried to see if anyone was interested in red top flybags and was quickly rebucked for trying to advertise for free!!

To No Flies On Us

If you are so confident about your product why not offer some free samples to some of the forum members to try out and they can then give the thumbs up (or down).  

Personally I am not convinced!

Hi - I will be just to pleased to spray around someone's home and go back to check results after say 6 days but would like a couple of unbiased people to give their views. No problem - email me on sin_moscas@yahoo.com to arrange a venue, date and time.  

Hi Flies,
Shouldn't matter whether the people are biased or not,if it works it works.
(by the way,I'm very,very unbiased)

Hi Flies, Why did you not just offer this in the first place!  I reckon you just wanted cheap publicity! ;D

I am about as unbiased as a crown green bowling ball ;D ;D ;D

And may i concur with Nobrot, he IS totally unbiased, he "dresses" on both sides......

wrote on May 26^th, 2009 at 12:10pm:

To No Flies On Us If you are so confident about your product why not offer some free samples to some of the forum members to try out and they can then give the thumbs up (or down).   Personally I am not convinced!

Does Sol d'Ebre offer free samples too?

wrote on May 13^th, 2009 at 10:36am:

I agree Tony I don't like people being conned by dodgy claims about marvelous products!! They are probably claimed to be Ecological as well!! ::) They simply don't work!! Don't waste your money, by fly screen mesh or Ikea net curtains

Hey guys you can't rubbish a lady and not expect her to defend her wares. She is not directly advertising merely counter debating your rather blunt remarks. In good faith she is offering to spray for free to disprove your moanings.  Give the lady a break.Also I think you guys do rather come across very sharp and bitchy. Tone it down.

OK - so we have plenty of unbiased people!!   ::)  Still waiting for time, date & venue!!  :'(

Ok all you non believers,I'm throwing my hat in the ring,

I've PM'ed my details.

Ebrovoice- No, Sol d'ebre don't give free samples, but then again they are not pushing stuff on this forum are they?
To me it's all about being straight with people, and No Flies was'nt. Simple as that.
If the stuff works for 3 months, then every one here would have it done twice a year at least. Damn good repeat business i think, and if Nobrot comes back on here saying how good it is, then No Flies will be swamped with orders. Read how this started before you accuse anyone of being a bit harsh, and male or female makes no odds to me, and it shouldn't to you either.

well hopefully we will let you know our opinion too as we have pmd and volunteered too!

wrote on May 28^th, 2009 at 12:19am:

wrote on May 13th, 2009 at 10:36am: I agree Tony I don't like people being conned by dodgy claims about marvelous products!! They are probably claimed to be Ecological as well!! ::) They simply don't work!! Don't waste your money, by fly screen mesh or Ikea net curtains Hey guys you can't rubbish a lady and not expect her to defend her wares. She is not directly advertising merely counter debating your rather blunt remarks. In good faith she is offering to spray for free to disprove your moanings.  Give the lady a break.Also I think you guys do rather come across very sharp and bitchy. Tone it down.

Ahh I see so the Lady in question will now be getting Free advertising on the Ebro Voice website then!! ::)

As she is not really advertising but helping out all us poor people suffering from flies

Well Flies,
You entered the Dragons den with various claims about your miracle cure for fly removal,fair play to you,you've had 3 pages of free 'publicity' and you offered your product on a free trial,however,in business you need customers and you need to keep them happy.I'm a potential customer who needs to keep flies off guests.I gave you my contact details,I'm still waiting.You only get one chance to make a first impression.It doesn't look to good from where I'm sitting.

There's no flies on you Rotnob, tell 'em how it is!!
                                                                     
                                                                    Nelson.

Hi Nobrot
Sorry didn't get your email - please email me with your tel no then we can arrange a day this week.  ;)

Hi Nobrot - email address sin_moscas@yahoo.com

wrote on May 28^th, 2009 at 10:20pm:

wrote on May 28th, 2009 at 12:19am: wrote on May 13th, 2009 at 10:36am: I agree Tony I don't like people being conned by dodgy claims about marvelous products!! They are probably claimed to be Ecological as well!! ::) They simply don't work!! Don't waste your money, by fly screen mesh or Ikea net curtains Hey guys you can't rubbish a lady and not expect her to defend her wares. She is not directly advertising merely counter debating your rather blunt remarks. In good faith she is offering to spray for free to disprove your moanings.  Give the lady a break.Also I think you guys do rather come across very sharp and bitchy. Tone it down. Ahh I see so the Lady in question will now be getting Free advertising on the Ebro Voice website then!! ::) As she is not really advertising but helping out all us poor people suffering from flies

Dearest Nut of Aldover fame, There is no charge for advertising on [url=www. EbroVoice.com]www. EbroVoice.com[/url]. It is  a blog, a place for musings, information and where I can ramble on for hours . It is the mother ship that adverts are charged for, but I am not here to compete with Nigel. I believe the Expat community should integrate with all cultures and other Expats from different lands and work together. If you can help someone else out, why not?

Well Ryan Air gets plenty of free advertising on this site Mr Clearly Clever O.Leary just has to think of some new outrageous thing he can charge for lets the world know hes considering it and bang hes got someones attention. Free advertising its that simple !

Joke  Hes done  a study and apparently booking in males takes longer than females, which means hes considering a surcharge on Men as  time cost money. He says its similar to allowing Laptop Computer as hand luggage for free, as laptops are petite stylish and clever, hes  arguing something along the lines that you only need to punch the information once in to a laptop before it understands. Joke ;D

I didnt dare do it the other way WoO

 

Getting back to the subject our resident swallows have hatched 4 offspring!! one less than last year so it could mean there are less flies about this year!! :-/

Maybe they only laid 4 eggs...On a similar note,there aren't as many bee eaters (I know they eat bees  but surely they must eat flies as well....)

Some of these Spotted Flycatchers per sq meter may help to solve the fly problem!
(They are around at the moment)  Natures remedy perhaps? Are you anygood at attracting birds Stuart?  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

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Hi Rob

Not a chance mate!  :(

I would make a better bird scarer, well thats what the missis says anyway :'(

I saw no spots on the bird is it the female?

Any movement on the the fly genocide yet?  Has the spreading of the "wonder fly-away" been done?
(And I should know better  [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]
Brian

wrote on Jun 7^th, 2009 at 7:48am:

Hi Rob Not a chance mate!  :( I would make a better bird scarer, well thats what the missis says anyway :'( I saw no spots on the bird is it the female?

'After 50, not so nifty'. It happens to us all!  As for the feathered variety in the picture, both sexes are alike, more streaky really. The juvenile has spots though on the back, I suppose it's not that different from our teenagers!

Hi Brian, yes it would be good to get some feedback from the "current human flycatching situation"
[smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

hi all just a quickie so to speak I wondered if anyone who contacted the lady who offered the free trial of No Flies spray had any response from her as I for one havent! to say I am sadly dissapointed is the least, I bought the after bite spray from her but was cautious about buying the flies away spray as it was quite expensive but to be quite honest if she cant even acknowledge a simple email i and cant follow up on her offers I dont have much faith in the product she is attempting to sell us all >:(
anyway looking forward to hearing of other peoples responses about the free trial!

I noticed that she chose a sympathetic person in Aragon to do the trial, not Nobrot or Ginestargal who would be objective!!, could that be that in Aragon which is obviously such a heavenly place they don't get any flies , and therefore the No Flies On Us would obviously work as there aren't any!!  ;D ;D ;D is it mee

Hi Nuthazel/hazelnut/opinionated idiot/or whatever.

HELLO.............DIDN'T YOU READ MY LAST POSTING...........................I........LIVE...........IN CATALUNYA.........................I WORK....IN ARAGON........MY COMPANY IS BASED IN ARAGON..............BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU IF I COULD SELL MY HOUSE IN LA CRISIS/RECESSION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT..................I WOULD

HEY JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHEREVER YOU LIVE IN CATALUNYA?????????     WE NEVER GET BURGLED, AND THERE ISN'T A SINGLE ALARM ON ANY HOUSE.................YAWN YAWN YAWN.......HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT!!!!!!!!

I BELIEVE THE LADY CONCERNED FROM THE COMPANY 'NO FLIES' IS GETTING VERY GOOD PUBLICITY FROM MANY OTHER SOURCES....................................................EXCEPT OF COURSE FROM HERE...............THERE'S A STORY


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND WE ALL LOVE SMILEY FACES.............. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:15am:

I BELIEVE THE LADY CONCERNED FROM THE COMPANY 'NO FLIES' IS GETTING VERY GOOD PUBLICITY FROM MANY OTHER SOURCES

...but does it work? We know of your trial, but how many more have been done and what is the success rate? Real people, real results?

As for publicity, The Olive Press have the advert BUT there is no way to ask questions/get answers from there. What other sources, I'd love to know, and results from real people??  Anyone can avertise in a magazine/paper, doesn't mean what they are selling necessarily works.

I think the jury is still out on this one...

Well....We had ours  sprayed on monday,a sort of 'ring of steel' around the place.
We were told it takes 3-4 days to work.As of yesterday (2 days) still loads of flies,mind you we have been mixing a lot of concrete...watch this space !!!!

Has anyone experienced a more severe problem recently.... as in bites being especially vicious?
We were over at the weekend and my partner and a lady 'resident' are both on antihistamine tablets as they were getting swollen ankles etc where they were attacked!

Flies humm,

Two things that worked for us.

In 2006 when our house has no fly protection I purchased two of the fly bag traps (Sol D Ebre 19 euros each 2009) erected them at opposite sides of the house 7/10 metres from the house. The cut the fly infestation near the house by 95%. Downside is they are disgusting to look at and stomach turning to clean and refill. But this still didnt allow us to eat without being pestered outside.  2008 I noticed My local restaurant has a similar one on his roofed outside patio where the inner bag is covered by a paper bag and this was also very effective without the being able to see a  decomposting display of thousands of putrid flies. So these do seem to have merit.

If you have an outside eating area with a overhead roof then erecting a cheap ceiling fan directly over the table assures you of a fly free meal as  the positive downward air pressure keeps them off the table.  

All my windows have mossies screens built in but we still get flies and mossies in the house via the doors so Ive taken  to using a more permanent approach with a fully covered mossie net sun terrace for fly and mossie free relax time, completly covering two sides of the house hopefully be finished soon ;)

As I live in a the middle of a very well fertislised orange grove which sees over 250 tonnes of chicken manure delivered nearby annually (trust me I count the lorryloads) and spread across the surrounding land. Oranges are very tasty though ;D.

PS Im not complaining about the manure and flies I choose to live here the farmer was here long b4 I decide to live next door Ive just decided that a physical barrier is the only way forward. My farmer is great he often apologise about the muck spreading but you cant have both,  country living great vistas peace and quiet without its rats, mice, snakes , flies and mossies

Finca Semi Ferral Cats sort the no so nice rodents which dispels the snakes to more rodent friendly areas and the mossie-fly free zones leave the peace and quiet and vista to be enjoyed. Thats the theory after being here nearly3 years taking good practice thats worked for others.

HTH WoO

Sounds like the dreaded Mosca negra or black flies.They put wifey in hospital 2 years ago for a very large 'JAB'.
The male aren't a problem...it's the females that take your blood.....does the story sound familiar
The females then buggar off to the river and lay their eggs.

I sprayed every outside wall of the house, twice, all the patio all around the house, Grapevines and flowers on the patio. Four weeks ago
Infact I think its the worst year ever for flies.
                             Terry.


                       SORRY,  IT DOES NOT WORK.
Neither does the anti bite spray.

wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:15am:

Hi Nuthazel/hazelnut/opinionated idiot/or whatever. I CAN ASSURE YOU IF I COULD SELL MY HOUSE IN LA CRISIS/RECESSION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT..................I WOULD ..............HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT!!!!!!!!...............................THERE'S A STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

What like over priced,poor condition or locaition!!!

You cant just blame the La crisis/recession as you put it,there must be other reasons?????  

I'll give you 5 euro's.............................Sold!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)






wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 8:33am:

wrote on Jun 18th, 2009 at 12:15am: I BELIEVE THE LADY CONCERNED FROM THE COMPANY 'NO FLIES' IS GETTING VERY GOOD PUBLICITY FROM MANY OTHER SOURCES ...but does it work? We know of your trial, but how many more have been done and what is the success rate? Real people, real results?

I think we all know the answer to this 1 and its a BIG NO!!   :'( :'( :'(

wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 8:21pm:

Sounds like the dreaded Mosca negra or black flies.They put wifey in hospital 2 years ago for a very large 'JAB'. The male aren't a problem...it's the females that take your blood.....does the story sound familiar The females then buggar off to the river and lay their eggs.

Not only is it the female that gives the worst bite but have you noticed that it is also the ladies who seem to suffer most from it with bad swellings, blisters etc that last for days and need antihistamine treatment ?
Most men just seem to get an irritation that lasts for approx an hour.

I have noticed that if I use Betadine Gel, availble from the chemist, on the bite when I notice it that the irritation is reduced quite considerably.

I googled 'mosca negra'.... and got this:
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/photoplog/index.php?u=62&page=8

;D  ;D  ;D

Hey Man Thanks for the Link .....Groovy yeah [smiley=happy.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Well members of the jury......It doesn't seem to work around here either,in fact they seem to getting worse ( I can hardy se the kyboard throgh the swrm )
About as useful as Anne Franks drum kit.

Steve,Where the hell are you now.You are supposed to be in a lap dancing bar in Las Vegas or somewhere aren't you ?????

HI I am back, couldnt stay, missed my cactusses too much :)
there are no flies in vegas, why is that you may ask.
Its because the lady has been selling her spray over there as well :exclamation :question [smiley=cheesy.gif]

We have just got 5 new recruits to our troup of fly catchers, but I am finding it difficult to train them to pick flies off us and the table when there are three cats underneath !!

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Well weve tried just about everything, from spraying the whole of the house outside, to foul smelling fly traps, they seem to be imune to fly spray, i'm sure they open their wings when we spray them, they seem to enjoy it.
So this is our last resort, ill pin it on the front door, that'll stop the little buggers.
                                  Terry.

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Hey Terry,
Your Poster seems to work.Put it on my front door yesterday & hey presto,no flies!  (or could it just have been down to the normal hurricane blowing outside?)   :-/

Dont forget I thought of it first, THINKS!!!!!!! maybe I can make some money here.Ha! Ha!.
                                    Terry.

Well Done Santsalvador Take out a patent !! ::) ::)

Well its just as likely to work as that spray stuff No Flies are selling!! ;D ;D ;D

So why not book yourself a stall at the next Booty and print of 50 or so!! ::)

Tell them its extra special patented ink you put in your printer, ecological produced out of supernatural ingredients and you have to put your fly poster up at the first full moon at midnight, then run round your property three times anticlockwise peeing at each corner standing on one leg

Which incidentally would also be just as effective!! ;D ;D

I have to agree Hazelnut, I was just thinking how quiet No Flies has gone, but then someone that cant even acknowledge a simple email certainly wont want to own up that they were trying to con us all with outlandish claims! do I sound angry, well yes I am for all those poor folks that spent on that money on a product that is a complete waste of time, when there money would have been better spent elsewhere!

Well - each to his own! I have had such a good report from people in areas like L'Ampolla, Flix, L'Ametlla, Mora etc. that I have been inundated with orders. I appologise to the lady in Ginestar for not getting back to her yet but been extremely busy. I will though!  :)

You can continue debating ...... enjoy your fly filled summer   :D  ::)  ;)  

Well good luck with your business, it must only be the Tortosa area where it doesn't seem to work! ::)

and as for our flies, we don't seem to have it bad this year thanks, may be due to our neighbours not spreading Chicken manure on their land!!

If it worked it would be worth millions and someone, lets say Dulux would buy the rights etc, sell and market the stuff globally, again if it worked.  :-/ :-/ :-/



Its ashame that none of these Happy customers are forum members to help fight your corner. We'll have to take your word on that then.

I think the stuff works so well in L'Ampolla, Flix, L'Ametlla, Mora etc. that it has sent all their flies over to us in Tortosa area [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

I dont think it would be such a good investment for a company like 'Dulux', as it obviously doesn't work very well where there are large concentrations of pig or chicken farms.

Therefore I suppose rural fincas around Benifallet, Tivenys, Bitem, Xerta and especially Aldover will be infested with flies, and like somebody said on here earlier, if neighbouring land owners use chicken or pig manure, which is apparently illegal but still widely used, you dont have a hope in hell of getting rid of the flies!!!!!!!! :-/ :-/

I still stand by my original post that there has been an improvement, BUT, I live in a village and my garden/patio is completely tiled, just sat outside after coming in from work for half an hour with a glass of wine to unwind, and wasn't bothered by flies.

We were at our caravan at Torre del Sol near Cambrills at the weekend, and even with the awning windows and doors wide open, we were pestered by the grand total of 5 flies, which is probably less than an average Summer day in the UK.

Oh well, I suppose the end result is that everyone knows where and what flies go for, begins with an S, but ........... ;D ;D ;D

I'm beginning to like these silly face things, great are'nt they..............................LOL

We have been trying the "sin mosca"  liquid out now for a month with no visible effects.  We are not inundated with flies, but they are no different in the sprayed area than out of it. We did two seperate areas, one in the pergola next to the house where we eat, and one in the summer house further up the garden. Neither is any different. We sprayed very thoroughly in all areas.
We live in Tivenys, there are trees about, but we are not up any mountain, maybe the answer is to cut all trees down, then spray..!!
We had the liquid bought for us as a present, and the lady who makes and sells the stuff knows where we live....there was no mention when she sold it to our friends that "it doesn't work in Tivenys etc..." maybe the label needs to have some further instruction...??

wrote on May 13^th, 2009 at 8:02am:

Yeah Netting off is the only solution or getting your neighbours to stop spraying pig and chicken slurry on their land, which incidently is illegal, if they spray manure it has to be turned into the soil immediately which non of them do of course!! ::)

Hmm I done some research on this illegal spraying of manure and slurry, I could bore you with it complexities but suffice to say the European Legislation is complex affects different locations in different ways requires certain good practices to be employed when local conditions and balances are met.

To say manure has to be turned into the soil immediately would be correct in only a small occurences when local conditions , climate, time of year , soil type, chemical compostion of soil would pose risk to health and flora/fauna and water contamination.

The EU regulations focus on reducing over fertilzation, correct safe storage of slurry/manure and its best application to prevent pollution to flora fauna and water table contamination, therefore as we all know there is a law for just about everything in the EU but its loaded with caveats

They emphasis is on education of farmers getting the balance right for sustainable farming and helping the farmers avoid costly civil proceedings  when the storage and spreading of slurry and manure  goes wrong and has environmental repercussions .

So I very much doubt  that our Spanish Farmers are breaking EU laws.  :)

By the way during my research it became very apparent that the Lawmakers  were working closely with farmers to get this right as there has been a European if not worldwide return to utilising manure and slurry as it is a lot cheaper than man made fertilizer . Bringing  technoglogy together with manure and slurry isnt as simple as you would think ;D

PS I didnt find any mention of flies in the papers I researched

HtH WoO.

well hi sorry about bringing up flies again but thought i would update everyone, Charlotte from "sin mosca"  came to spray around our casa for free as she said she would and she did say when she came that it probably wouldnt be 100 per cent effective as our place is still a bit like a building site - not bad but a heap of sand etc but she said  :o it would improve the fly situation dramatically. Any how I have to say sorry Charlotte the only effect it seemed to have was to encourage more flies, we actually did seem to have far more flies after the four days than ever before and it was even commented on by neighbours, so my advise is listen to peoples actual experiences before parting with your money, but as i stated before the after bite spray did work.