just watched an interesting program on the bbc,makes for very interesting watching,
seems spain is another country like the uk thats on its a**e,why is it they cant work themselves out of a hole,create jobs, manufacture things,create proper irrigation systems and grow produce for sale,
instead what do spanish youngsters with good qualifications do ,bale out and take crap jobs in other countries!
the way forward for most of europe is to stop buying cheap chinese junk and start producing our own products ,create jobs for our own!
then maybe we will have half a chance of standing proud again with our youngsters learning skills that previous generations used to have,
instead all i hear these days is doom and gloom!
what kind of message is that to hand down to the next generation ,
EUROPE SORT YOURSELF OUT !

Yes I saw that program, it was very interesting and sad in some ways, 400000 young Spanish people moved to other countries  many well educated but now working as waiters etc. Much of the problem is rooted in education, the majority Chinese students are studying production, design, engineering while euro students are majoring in gender equality and such like, the result is, as you see.

Quite agree Nobrot, saw this coming years ago, why didnt they. according to the program, throw money at it or build there way out of it, now there talking about holding the rest of Europe to ransom, lend us the money with no concessions or we'll bring the rest of Europe down with us.
They will never change, they dont know how.
Terry.

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They did, great roads that lead nowhere and vasted over rated follies,(there's a €1/2m one in Tivenys) all paid for by the EU. A banking sector that was propped up by hyper inflated house prices and a tourist industry that thought they had a devine right to Europes holiday traffic.

.... of course its so much better in Blighty, low petty crime rates, virtually no gang related gun crime, jobs for all because of the low level of immigrants and asylum seekers.....and of course a nice cool breeze from Jan to Dec.....and the interest at the banks means pensions remain untouched ..... when you couple all that to the low taxation levels and wonderful NHS that is so over funded I really dont know why I came here.....