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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #60 - Aug 9th, 2013 at 1:45pm
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Ahhhhhh -trailer reversing!!! well it all depends on the size of the trailer ,dosnt it  Grin
  
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skibob
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #61 - Aug 9th, 2013 at 2:31pm
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Don't know. I was never in the Army. Wink
  
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Tony
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #62 - Aug 9th, 2013 at 10:15pm
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The only thing I am fed up with is people on this forum telling me how or how I should not think with regard to immigration and its associated problems whether in the UK or here.
  
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Nobrot
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #63 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 8:30am
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The only thing I am fed up with is people on this forum telling me how or how I should not think with regard to immigration and its associated problems whether in the UK or here.



No one's telling anybody how to think, just voicing their opinions on a particular point.
  
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ebrorob
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #64 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 11:42am
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The only thing I am fed up with is people on this forum telling me how or how I should not think with regard to immigration and its associated problems whether in the UK or here.


Come on then Tony, what are your views on this subject then?   Wink
  
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Pondgirl
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #65 - Aug 10th, 2013 at 2:47pm
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The only thing I am fed up with is people on this forum telling me how or how I should not think with regard to immigration and its associated problems whether in the UK or here.



No one's telling anybody how to think, just voicing their opinions on a particular point.

I must admit I was surprised at Tony's remark.. I haven't seen anyone telling others what to think.  Telling people you don't agree with them or even that you don't like what they are saying is just discussion isn't it?
  
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bruixot
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #66 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 9:31pm
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I have no intention of restarting this discussion but...


"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, let's blame the people with no power and no money and these immigrants who don't even have the vote – yeah, it must be their crappity smacking fault."
Iain Banks

Sounds right to me. Everything else is a smokescreen to cover this.
Bruixot
  
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coldalba
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #67 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm
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OK. I'll come out of my cave and say thanks to
# Bruixot for his last post, so true.
# Pondgirl for consistently confronting the prejudice (those that use the Daily Mail as a source of information!), and finally to
# JaBB for having some experience to add to all the opinion.
There is hope.
Ed
  
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Smidge
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #68 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 11:01pm
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Ed, are you showing  "prejudice " against those who use the Daily Mail a source of information ? Think about it.  Smiley
  
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Pondgirl
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #69 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 9:15am
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Ed, are you showing  "prejudice " against those who use the Daily Mail a source of information ? Think about it.  Smiley


Well the dictionary describes 'prejudice' as:
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

If you rely on the DM for your opinion you are not using knowledge, thought or reason.  So, no, he's not  Smiley.
  
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Smidge
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #70 - Aug 12th, 2013 at 8:18pm
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Pondgirl, I disagree with your reply to my question to Ed.
Firstly you have misquoted Ed, He did not say use the DM "for your opinion" he wrote  "(those that use the Daily Mail as a source of information!)". Using for "opinion" is totally different than using for "information."

Information being facts formed so as to provide meaning. Prejudice I agree as per your post.

Many people use the DM. to seek information. Nobody can assume that "those" who seek information in the DM. agree with the information or use it to form prejudiced opinion.
Some read it to disagree,
Some to understand.
Some to (know thy enemy).
Some to comment on.
Some to debate it.
Some for legal purposes.
Some for social purposes.
Some information in the DM, is 100% correct.
To label "people" whose motives or reasons are not known in a pejorative way ie. "prejudice" as in the post is to have an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason of these people. I.E. prejudiced opinion of these people.
This is an good example of the insidious nature of prejudice.
The objective of this form is, consciously or unconsciously,  to take away peoples freedom to seek information and devalue them by labeling them in a pejorative manner.   Smiley
  
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Pondgirl
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #71 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:04am
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Smidge I did say "If you rely on the DM for your information".  I meant relying on a single source.  And people use the information to form their opinions do they not?  If you rely on a single source (whatever it is) it will skew your opinions, is what I am saying.  Oh and the Daily Mail is an odious rag that objectifies women on a daily basis and continually publishes articles that are designed to anger people, something that shows quite clearly in their comments sections.  It gets them 'click throughs' and they mean money.
  
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ebrorob
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #72 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:23pm
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Seconds away round 5   Grin   (I´ve been secretly informed that Nobby may take a dive in round 6!  Wink )
  
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Hen_Fox
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #73 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 5:00pm
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The Daily Mail is not a source of enlightenment, it just reinforces existing prejudices in its readers.
  
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Smidge
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Re: Could only happen in the UK
Reply #74 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:13pm
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Pondgirl I will have to take your word that the Daily Mail is "an odious rag that objectifies women on a daily basis and continually publishes articles that are designed to anger people "  as those are serious opinions and I would not approach reading the DM with a serious attitude nor would I read it on a "daily basis"  However it strikes me you appear to have such an emphatic and comprehensive understanding about the nature of the DM. it is reasonable to assume that you get information from /read the DM . How would you be so well informed otherwise? . According to EDs post "the prejudice (those that use the Daily Mail as a source of information!)", this would define you as "prejudice"  Would you agree of disagree with him ?  Smiley
  
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