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Tony
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Re: what do you think, shall we vote
Reply #30 - Mar 20th, 2008 at 12:54am
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I take it that this is not the same 'Olive Press' magazine that has been flourishing in Andalucia for the last two years.  Could be that they would not like to see another magazine of the same name being published in Spain.  I would tread very carefully if I were you - possible court action when they find out ?

  
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William of Orange
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Reply #31 - Mar 20th, 2008 at 12:23pm
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Flicking through the pre launch  website it appears that the owners have migrated from Southern Spain Shocked

Could be same outfit u never know Huh
  
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tinkerbell
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Reply #32 - Mar 20th, 2008 at 7:17pm
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Goody goody gum drops......a new mag .well don't care where it came from who writes it ,where they live .just as long as its a good read ..good luck to them looking forward to it .
  
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William of Orange
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Reply #33 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 1:52am
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Im alright jack pull the ladder up a great way to run yor life, Sad  If this guy Olive Press thinks hell get enough 300e full page adds to pay for you 2 sit down and read a 1/2 sized mag foc then jolly good, if the mags so good and the demand for sticky buns and a good read are so obvious why dont the free loaders,,,,,, write to the editor with a 1000,s signatures and pleadge a euro an issue Undecided Undecided

There isn't the demand from our community to have a glossy colour mag paid for by the limited people who want or need to reach our wallets at 300e a page a pop !
I said b4 and say again the day of limited publication free to the unwashed, is a non starter, ask Debs what I was proposing for a free web based mag full page.......20 euros not 360 euros......how many people need to visit  One Hose.io to recoup 300e a month..... a big handful, just one by my route enough said.

Caalunya Life failed because most English based adverts never paid a single penny  Low Lifes yes ! if not why did they go under  simply because the advertising they took and never ever ever  paid for.>>>>Not a single euro of there blasted promised bill, they failed as a business and CL failed. So has Olive Press added the mustard not really................ dont pay your bill and we reserve the right to publish your default.....try pay up front Mr Business Man if your earning it pay for it !

How many new companies will advertise with the OP who are still trading from CL fame.


Sorry for the rant u get what u pay for ! I wish Olive Press 100 % success give 3 months free press but get the cash up front mate or 1.2.3 years down the road its UB40 time...........says  WoO

Nigel  (TF) I agree with u....... put it on my plate and Ill lick it up ,..... ask for comitment and the rooms empty.

I dont care who this post offends Cool  Nigel has asked for contributors to his forum, I voluterred who else did. Only those probaly with services they have to sell which is OK by Me no input no gain. The communist route hasnt got 2 Spain yet sorry  Grin

Debs u loved CL but why has it gone ?

How does spell check work on this forum Nobrot ?
  
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bill and bob
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Reply #34 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 9:39am
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Obviously judging by the time of night and the contents of your post, you must have had a few. for goodness sake william get a life or a new hobby. I say good luck to the magazine at least they are trying.
thanks nigel for finding out about the mag  it looks like this is the answer to my poll.
  
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ebrorob
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Reply #35 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 10:22am
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The word on the street is that a newspaper in english (i presume with contents of local interest) is planned for the Tortosa area. Smiley
Do not know the full details but will keep an eye out & report back.
ebrorob
  
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sue100
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Reply #36 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 10:51am
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Ok, I have spent ages now listening to you all rant and rave. I cannot believe how sad some people are. Firstly these Olive Press people produced a very good magazine in the south of Spain, so why not here. But I agree with William, get your money up front from advertisers.  Its not published until May why can you not wait and see before making these judgements.

Meanwhile a newspaper in English has been available in this area for decades. Its called Catalonia Times, edited and printed in Barcelona, but with local content. It comes out on a Friday for 2 euros.

No-one here has mentioned the other local English magazine available Caminos its brill, much better than Catalunya Life was i the end. It gives the local news which affects us all. No articles just news, such as changes in Law etc. costs 1.80 euros on the first day of each month. I cannot wait to buy it each month.

Please guys, just give people a chance, lets see first before making judgements. In my book anything that gives local information 'for the great unwashed' is great.

I miss reading English Mags and newspapers. I would be very happy to contribute something to an online paper, as i used to write for book reviews for Catalunya Life and enjoyed the challenge.

Finally, William what has happened to your idea of a book swap. I dusted all my books off in anticipation and nothing has happened - Do you want help in setting this up, I will be more than willing to help you. Cheesy

So come on guys less meaningless ranting on here, what must new members, or guests on here thinking of moving out here think. Hmmm .... not going to that area its full of mindless morons. Undecided


  
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jools
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Reply #37 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 4:19pm
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Well said William and Sue,

I have been watching this thread about Catalunya Life magazine for a while.
I'm sure Felicity and Rob  (the owners of the mag) wont mind me putting you in the picture a little bit.

I used to sell advertising space for the magazine over 3 years ago, with my Spanish friend. This meant that we could approach both English and Spanish speaking companies to buy the advertising space.

We were paid commission on the sales, and repeat business. The magazine doubled in size from around 24 pages to 40 something in a matter of 4 months.............

Then we hit a huge problem.

Obviously the only way for my friend and I to earn money was to sell more advertising space, no problem for us, but Felicity then had to compile the forth coming magazine, she had nightmare battles with the printing company about quality control and spelling mistakes, and here we go......people promised to write articles and then let her down in the end, she had to cover a huge area collecting payments for the next months advertising because a "direct from the bank payment system" was never set up properly by Lawyers, the distribution system got larger and larger.............i can go on and on.

I do know that Felicity pumped in many thousands of euros of her own money, because she had so much confidence in the magazine, and I also know that she is owed much more than that from people and companies who advertised and never paid for it......................you know who you are!!!!!!

The magazine finally folded, pardon the pun, when shock horror, people were expected to pay a euro towards the cost of printing their precious, cant live without it magazine, and guess what................they didn't want to pay!

My friend and I left the magazine over 2 years ago, but always kept in touch with Felicity, I email her occasionally now, but you know how it is when you have such a busy life with kids, visitors, work etc, people just dont have the time.

Hey William, dont know about you mate, posting late at night because you've had a few. I sometimes write on here extremely late at night, purely because it's the only bl00dy time i get to myself,.......................LOL.....................strange how people think sometimes hey?

Good luck to the new magazine, I am sure they will need it.

I'm sure I will get some flack for the next comment but it is definitely true!

Maybe if Brits in general could be a little more like the Yanks, in regard to a failure or success story.
Americans love a success story and wish you all the luck, and really seem to get off on it....................Brits seem to jump on a story of failure with doom and gloom, and of course everybody can disect it and say where they went wrong with expert opinions.

Hope this is a respectable time to post on a Good Friday, had some wine with lunch though.............rare treat, cos I'm usually working.

Happy Easter to everyone.

 
  
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William of Orange
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Reply #38 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 6:13pm
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Cant Pay Wont Pay, Still ended up in the end with little or poor content and No Free Magazine at the end of the day ! I wish Olive Press every success I never said anything to the contrary but be warned the free loaders and bad debtors are out there. I take it i can post without comment at 1800 hours. Undecided

Sue The finisihing touches are being applied for a mid April Date weather more predictable and a copy of the menu del dia for people to decide if they wish to take lunch at the same time ....how does spell check work  on this !
  
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Debs
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Reply #39 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 6:36pm
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Hey Wills

Spell checker,wots one ov those?
Try a good old dictionary, even in this day and age, of PC technology!
Maybe you should give your ideas a go! You ll never know unless you do.
I ll bring the first issue of Olive Press ,to the book swap club and some sticky buns too Smiley
Come on guys, lets all be friends! Smiley
  
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Mathew
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Reply #40 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 7:48pm
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To anyone on the outer reaches of the tortosa forum, it would be nice if people  supported the new magazine as you seem to miss Catalunya life.
  
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Jislaaik
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Reply #41 - Mar 21st, 2008 at 9:06pm
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My two pence worth:

I founded and ran a weekly freesheet tabloid to the townships of the Western Cape in South Africa a decade ago. I have been there and done that. I have to be honest and admit that the only reason it was a success and still runs today, is because it was politically correct. (The unique selling point)
99% of 'free sheets' will probably fail no matter how loyal its fans are or how hard the owners work. It is pure economics at the end of the day - UNLESS of course it is a charity situation.

In today's era of information overload from multiple sources it is even harder to hope advertisers can support a free magazine, unless that magazine has an extremely unique selling point (or suppporter base) and an extremely tough accounting regimen.

That is not even taking into account the 'big boy' publishers who own many of the printing presses and distribution logistics anyway.

The sad part about all this is that real people do get hurt and lots of money and pride can get lost, so lets spare a thought for them.

My opinion is that to start a freesheet nowadays, you are either very brave or a bit uninformed or.. you know something we don't!

Good luck to OP!  Wink
  
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ebrorob
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Reply #42 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 10:52am
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Hi Sue100,
Anymore details on the Caminos english mag? perhaps some forum members may want to obtain it?
Already know about Catalonia Times,its very informative.I believe ( although not totally sure) that the planned newspaper will be aimed more towards the lower ebro area.
ebrorob
  
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Debs
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Reply #43 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 2:18pm
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Just to add to Sues post.
I bought 'Catalonia Today'. At the local tobacconist. Apparently, it s the first Catalan newspaper, written in English.
Its published weekly in Barcelona and costs 2 Euros.
Sorry  Sue, if this is the newspaper ,you were refering to.
At first glance, I haven t read it all yet, it looks good!
  
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sue100
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Reply #44 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 6:19pm
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Hi

Firstly, Yes the paper I was refering to is Catalonia Today, please excuse my mistake in the title. The Caminos magazine is published as a joint German/English magazine and I get my copy at Murrey's in Sabeco in Tortosa. It is normally available on the 1st day of the month, and is published by a company in Ulldecona.

Hope that answers everyones questions from my post.
Wink
  
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