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Nelson Mandela has died aged 95
Dec 6th, 2013 at 10:14am
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nelson-mandela-dies-president-confirms-214954970.html

Nelsen Mandela has died in Johannesburg aged 95. A great loss to the world.

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Re: Nelson Mandela has died aged 95
Reply #1 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 12:07pm
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As South Africa weeps the loss of Nelson Mandela, it turns out that one of his cleaners was the last to hear him speak.
When interviewed, the reporter asked what his last words were.
Tearfully she said. "Don't unplug that machine , It's keeping me ali......"

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Reply #2 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:38pm
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Bunter wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
As South Africa weeps the loss of Nelson Mandela, it turns out that one of his cleaners was the last to hear him speak.
When interviewed, the reporter asked what his last words were.
Tearfully she said. "Don't unplug that machine , It's keeping me ali......"

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This is sick.
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:50pm
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A great man he will be missed and not only in his own country
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 2:00pm
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Great men do not deny that they have an AID's epidemic in their country.
Not allowing the distribution of condoms was unforgiveable.
He was a racist just like the whites in South Africa.
He was nothing more than a puppet for the racist ANC.
l for one will certainly not miss him.
  
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Re: Nelson Mandela has died aged 95
Reply #5 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 4:57pm
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Great men do not deny that they have an AID's epidemic in their country.
Not allowing the distribution of condoms was unforgiveable.
He was a racist just like the whites in South Africa.
He was nothing more than a puppet for the racist ANC.
l for one will certainly not miss him.


I agree, besided saving 50 million people from apartheid and leading one of the biggest campains agains AIDS we really must blame him he did not walk on water or changed it into wine.

Shame on him and also on Mahatma Ghandi, the dalai lama and mother Theresa, they where all so busy with their own little projects they forgot to solve all the other problems of the world.

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Reply #6 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 5:44pm
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wonderful,. el alto how you have replied those simple people.
one can always find the little things a person did not do but never talk about the great things the same person did . I always wonder what those people who are so good at critizising ever have done themselves.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 5:53pm
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"Great men do not deny that they have an AID's epidemic in their country."

Bob with all due respect, you are making a mistake with regards to aids, NM. openly admitted to the aids problem in SA. not only that he called a news conference to announce that his last son had died from aids in order to provide the leadership to others not to deny Aids.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 9:10pm
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Your right Smidge But it wasn't till his son died that he was dragged to the microphone and admit they had a problem. What about the millions that had died before he acknowledge  his son had AIDs
lf he was a peaceful man. Why was he a co-founder of the MK.
lt took him 27 years to realise what most right minded people think.
From Wikipedia
  Umkhonto we Sizwe (or MK), translated "Spear of the Nation", was the military wing of the ANC. Partly in response to the Sharpeville massacre of 1960, individual members of the ANC found it necessary to consider violence to combat what passive protest had failed to quell. There was a significant portion of the ANC who therefore turned to violence to achieve their goals. A significant portion of ANC leadership agreed that this violence was needed to combat increasing backlash from the government. Some ANC members were upset by the actions of the MK, and refused to accept violence as necessary for the ending of Apartheid, but these individuals became a minority as the militant leaders such as Nelson Mandela gained significant popularity. Many consider their actions to be criminal, but the MK deemed the means justified by the end goal of ending apartheid. The MK committed terrorist acts to achieve their aims, and MK was responsible for the deaths of both civilians and members of the military. Acts of terrorism committed by the MK include the Church Street bombing and the Magoo's Bar bombing. In co-operation with the South African Communist Party, MK was founded in 1961.

He believed in peaceful change no more than Jerry Adams.

!As for myself l have served in Her Majesties forces all over the world and  have been part of peace keeping missions in Aden-Borneo as well as N Ireland. protecting the innocent.

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Re: Nelson Mandela has died aged 95
Reply #9 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 10:33pm
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How blessed we are to have such a talent on the Forum....
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 9th, 2013 at 11:52pm
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Re: Nelson Mandela has died aged 95
Reply #11 - Dec 10th, 2013 at 4:49am
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Not really sure what your point is, I don't believe anyone has suggested he was a saint. Perhaps just an attempt to deflect from your ill timed joke ?
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 10th, 2013 at 10:48am
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Bob, AIDS may not have been on his agenda he was banged up at the time this epidemic was starting. However when he did become conscious of it he spoke out against it.
Regarding man of violence/peace I will leave that to others to debate. You have your view and shown evidence here why you have the view. Some of the people with the opposite view can outline similar evidence for their view, some cannot. However the great thing about freedom is that everyone can express their view.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 10th, 2013 at 3:32pm
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I do not really think that we have to find excuses for Nelson Mandela. he was a human being  and therefore not perfect but to imply that he was other than a peaceful person who wanted a better south africa is a bit shortsighted, as it is to boast of the fact that one fought in N.I. for the innocent
please first look in your own book before critizising enything else'you are right everybody in this free world in entitled to their opinion but always realize it is only an opinion.yours!!
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2013 at 6:20pm
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You asked the question Hivi. (I always wonder what those people who are so good at critizising ever have done themselves. ) So l told you. l was not boasting about my time in Nl.
The fact l was there gives me a more balanced view.  After all ones mans Terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Now l  throw your question  back to you.
Quite agree with you Smidge.  ln a Free world we can all have an opinion. So nice to debate and rise above.

Those without knowledge will seek to personalise there replies. Perhaps you would like a translation Hivi.
  
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