someone sent me a pm but I deleted it before answering.  NO I haven't had any response to my post.  It seems no one has applied for a C de H or if they have, they're not saying anything about the process.

Hi Colin.
Read this it may helphttp://www.livespainforlife.com/Property/Sellingyourproperty/tabid/139/language/...
But it seems to refer to electricity connections.
As i told you, I was told they will never issue a C De H for Rustic Fincas.
We saw a solicitor before Christmas for this very same subject and he said we needed one but didnt know if we'd get one, he thought it would be a local decision and we'd have to get an architect.
                       Terry

Hello everyone

In Catalunya, my personal experience is that a cédula de habitabilidad (have you tried saying it?) is now needed when you sell any property that is registered as a dwelling (vivienda) at the Land Registry (Registro de la Propiedad) - regardless of whether it is an apartment, a townhouse... or a country property.

If you don't have it, the Land Registry cannot register the property and the notary -at least the ones I deal with- will not conduct the sale.

In some towns and villages, you may need a cédula for a rental contract, so that the tenant can register as a resident (empadronamiento) at the local council.

And of course you usually need the cédula to contract mains services too.

If the building doesn't meet habitation standards, an alternative certificate can be issued, stating that if work xxxx were carried out, a cédula could be issued. This won't be any good for contracting mains services of course, but in my experience, it will enable you to sell the property.

If I remember rightly the last cédula I had done cost around 350 euros*. Cédulas can be issued by an architect or an 'aparejador' (technical architect/surveyor), who inspects the property and draws up a simple plan and fills in a form. This is then stamped by the official architects'/aparejadors' association.

*I use an aparejador.

The form then goes to the local Consell Comarcal for processing, and is (if I remember correctly) sent to the Departament d'Habitatge in Barcelona. In Tortosa at any rate, this is the longest part of the process - takes at least three weeks. The next time I need one in a hurry I'll take it the form to Barcelona myself...

A few months back, a client of mine had a cédula de habitabilidad issued when she sold her finca, as the building on it was classed as a dwelling on the Catastro. That way the buyer was able to get the building registered as a dwelling at the Land Registry - useful indeed.

Anyway I hope this helps someone out there and is not too tedious...

AgentX

When friends of ours applied for Epadraments in Jesus, approx. two years ago,  they were told they needed the cedula de habitabiliad, before any would be issued with them.
This took extra time and money!

Sorry I missed this thread and posted a new one at http://www.tortosaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1270556098

Hazlenut,
Thank you for having the courage to state the true facts,that I think many people have known for a long time,but chose to ignore !
I get the impression that many people would have still purchased their property regardless,but obviously at the much lower price, of what is in effect just farmland.

Yip, I think we should all just leave Catalunya...

I have just taken out an option on a casa in Alicante and the estate agent there has never heard of the Cedula story!

(The Catalan character is charactarised as a bit of a cartoon in Spain...).
At least my children won't be forced to speak a language they hardly even use in the Universties here...

It's simple, "if you want Spanish hospitality, go to Spain" you won't find it in Catalunya - I would have paid for this advice prior to settling in Catalunya...