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Declaration of assets outside of Spain. Modelo 720
Feb 27th, 2013 at 9:45pm
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Hi,

Can anyone offer any advice on the lastest clamp down on ex pats in Spain?
Basically anyone who is living in Spain and has assests outside the country MUST declare them by law! By assets I mean property, bank accounts, savings, ISA's, shares, businesses, etc. At the moment pension plans are not included. This probabaly only apllies to people who are autonomos and 'in the system' but more and more information is been shared between counrties and the tax man is hungry!
If you choose not to declare your assets through the modelo 720 form and you are found to have assets outside of Spain then HEAVY fine may be imposed and taxes upto 150% of the value of the asset.
I have been advised by my accountant to declare everything as they will discover eberything in time.
Has anyone else heard of this recent development and what advice can you offer?
  
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Re: Declaration of assets outside of Spain. Modelo 720
Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2013 at 12:04am
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Having just had dinner with a Spanish friend he seems to think that this is only an opportunity to admit to 'black money' purchases before a deadline.  (A bit like America had regarding Swiss bank accounts.)  In other words if your foreign assets are legitimate then there is nothing to declare but expect punitive treatment if they find stuff which you haven't confessed to which is hookie.  Expect the Spanish Inquisition!!! 
PS  Last I heard there were no forms available to fill in.  Perhaps they need to pay the printer in cash to get on with them.   Wink
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2013 at 5:18am
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This is nothing new really, and a no brainer... if you pay your taxes in your nominated eu country you really have nothing to worry about , its the people who hide their assets and dont make a contribution to the society they live in who have everything to be worried about, and rightly so, they are as bad as benefit scroungers....!
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 4th, 2013 at 10:35pm
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Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 10:31am
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Has anyone got any updates or clearer information about this . Is it compulsory ? What happens if you do not fill the form in but any assets abroad ( UK ) are legit and taxed at scource ?. Is the form available in english ? Do you only declare if your income is over a certain amount . I understand there is a time limit ...April I think . If it is compulsory who are the best people to contact to get it sorted ? Undecided
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 1:49pm
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Yes it's compulsory.
Hefty fines,  if you are found out to have ANY assets, other than here in Spain, worth over 50.000 euros. and havn't filled in the form.
So it means, bank accounts, shares, property etc. over the value of 50.000. This is per item.
This is not to do with paying taxes, in either country.
I believe you can find the form on on line now, but not in English!
If you wish to speak to someone about this, Carlos is a nice guy who speaks English. He is based in Tortosa. Tel: 977449022
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 2:16pm
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Hi Rita, it could well be "to do with paying taxes in either country." If you have assets from which you have derived or are/will derive an income you could depending on your past, current or future residence and tax reporting be liable for tax payments as a result of information derived from the registration of assets. However you have to make the registration.
Its a very complex area.  Smiley
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 14th, 2013 at 12:47pm
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Has anyone managed to successfully file a declaration ?
  

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Reply #8 - Apr 14th, 2013 at 1:50pm
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All sorted through Carlos (see above)  Smiley
Not too painful, worth doing for peace of mind.

As Rita said this is not dependant on your tax declaration.
It needs doing, or they can take up to 150% in fines - Ouch!
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 14th, 2013 at 11:33pm
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How much did it all cost roughly please?
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Reply #10 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 9:00am
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Not had the final bill yet, but it is supposed to be about €30.
Cheaper than a tax Renta and easier.
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 9:21am
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Cost is 30 euros per person, plus I.V.A.
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 18th, 2013 at 1:05pm
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Thanks for the recommend Rita.  Went to see him today.  Nice bloke, very professional.  Smart offices.
  

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Reply #13 - Apr 19th, 2013 at 10:10am
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Hi Rita, is carlos a solicitor? or do you know any english speaking solicitors in Tortosa? thanks Angela
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 19th, 2013 at 1:16pm
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Carlos is not a solicitor.
We use Ton Batlle, who is based in Tarragona.
Really nice, reasonable and English speaking.
He sometimes comes out to Tortosa, so worth making a phone call to him.
977218633
  
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