HI. reply to Nen, The problem with legalising all properties, especially those on campo is that by EU law all habitable (Cedula)properties must have services,IE water electricity.
Could you imagine the costs involved.
One way, is to have an addition to the escritura saying you do not want these services, then any future buyer of that property would automatically have to agree.
Terry.

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hi terry we have water and ele on all 3 propertys and we have tarmac roads and wastbins and we pay land and house taxes on 2 of the propertys but only land rates on the third. maybe we should all refuse to pay the taxes and see what happens .

HI Nen. Would you believe we have neither and we still pay 62.33 a year council tax, we dont pay any land tax as the value is below 3€.
Terry.

Were all waiting to hear from Sue100, whats the verdict.

hello everyone,i am another one with all the same problems,illegal building ,dodgy estate agent ,dodgy builder etc,etc ,how many of us is that now,must be quite a few eh!

I have just spoken to the technico handling this for me, and was given the following news - which sounds good to me

My house is urban, but the land it stands on is still rustic, so at the moment I am unlikely to get a cedula, however the man in the office at Tortosa who is refusing all rural dwellings is leaving/or being moved from his position on 5th September due to the Cedula application problems currently being experienced in the Tortosa administration area only.

This situation is not happening in other administration areas of Catalunya, only in Tortosa, which all Baix Ebre applications have to go through.

Therefore he is holding my application over until after the 5th September 2010. Lets hope this will put an end to the problems we are all experiencing with trying to get a Cedula.

He did state that as now, after the 5th September you will only be able to get a cedula on a rustic property that has never in its history had a fine or building work stopped pending fine, whether imposed or not.  I do already have this letter from my local town hall to state that the property has never been fined or had work stopped. This is NOTjust about while you have owned the property, but during the properties entire history of ownership.

I will update further in September when my application will finally go before the powers that be. In the meantime The technico suggests everyone saves their time, money and frustration until after the 5th September.

Hi Nen,
The cedula is a fairly recent Catalan invention, and probably wasn't a normality when you bought your properties.
Even town houses need one to be bought and sold, not just rural properties.
My town house is on the market for sale, so when/if somebody wants to buy it, I will then have to get a cedula from a local Architect, at a cost of around 150 Euros, or the Notary cannot complete the sale.
My business partner sold a town house only 2 and a half years ago and didn't need one then.
Hope this helps.
Jools